GOOD MORNING, CLASS OF '64
A winter storm is moving across the country, and it's predicted to settle another load of snow on our mountains. But, Larry is back with a tickle your funny bone story that will provide some relief from the tiring weather. He takes a licking from a furry primate and lives to tell the story.
The Chimpanzee
Fight
Larry See
Larry See
In years before the SPCA and
later PETA became so powerful, a fairly common carnival attraction was to box
or wrestle a small bear, a kangaroo, or a chimpanzee. There were doubtless some
cases of animal abuse at those attractions, but many of the animals were
treated very well.
In the summer of 1968, I
worked as a Vocational Agriculture teacher’s assistant at Elkins High School. I
worked with one of the students training and gentling steers for show purposes.
We trained 4 Hereford steers weighing about 1000 pounds each. I camped with him
at the Taylor County Fair for 3 or 4 days.
He had, by far, the best animals in the show. I was at the age that I knew everything and was pretty cocky. After all, I could handle a 1000-pound steer on a rope with ease. So when a new challenge presented itself, I went for it.
He had, by far, the best animals in the show. I was at the age that I knew everything and was pretty cocky. After all, I could handle a 1000-pound steer on a rope with ease. So when a new challenge presented itself, I went for it.
Noell’s Ark was one of the
attractions in the carnival. It was owned by Mr. and Mrs. Ray Noell. They had a
dozen or so primates including a gorilla and an orangutan that Mr. Noell worked
out and wrestled with as an attraction. The rest were all chimpanzees. Their
biggest show attraction was to entice local tough, cocky guys to box or wrestle
with a chimpanzee. They offered a small prize for anyone who could defeat one
of his chimps. I was convinced that prize was mine. I had boxed quite a bit and
was fairly good at it. After all, those 1000-pound steers had bowed to my will
- what could a 97-pound chimp do to me? So I signed up to box one of them.
When the scheduled time came,
Mr. Noell got us equipped and introduced us. Little Joe wore a muzzle, light
boxing gloves, and sneakers. I wore a football helmet and 14 or 16 ounce boxing
gloves. Professional gloves are 8 ounce so these were big and well-padded.
When we entered the cage, Joe
hopped up on his tire, and I stayed in my corner as I had been advised. Soon
Joe advanced toward me so I went out to meet him. I was struck by how short he
was - he barely came up to my waist. At 6 feet, 2 inches, I had never boxed
anyone as tall as me so a shorter opponent was nothing new. I had learned to
keep my left jab in my opponent’s face as much as possible, and when he got
inside my jab, to throw a right cross and circle away to my right, away from
his power. My left jab and my right cross were my best punches so I was
comfortable against shorter men.
But this chimp was really short. I planned to use the same basic tactic against Joe, but he was so short, I wasn’t sure I could hit him. I kept widening my stance more and more, getting lower to the ground. Mistake Number 2. (Number 1 was actually thinking I could beat him!) Before he was in range for me to hit him, he grabbed my left ankle and jerked me down. He then jumped on me and beat on me until Ray pulled him off. He asked if I wanted to continue, and, of course, I did - I still thought I could beat him.
But this chimp was really short. I planned to use the same basic tactic against Joe, but he was so short, I wasn’t sure I could hit him. I kept widening my stance more and more, getting lower to the ground. Mistake Number 2. (Number 1 was actually thinking I could beat him!) Before he was in range for me to hit him, he grabbed my left ankle and jerked me down. He then jumped on me and beat on me until Ray pulled him off. He asked if I wanted to continue, and, of course, I did - I still thought I could beat him.
He had tricked me in the first
round. I wasn’t going to let him do that again so in Round 2, I abandoned my
fighting T- stance (left foot forward) and set my feet side-by-side, again
spread wide. That got me low enough to hit him without giving him an ankle to
grab. I knew I couldn’t punch very hard from that stance, but I wasn’t planning
to hit him that hard anyway. I thought I’d go easy on him. (Another mistake!) I
did not consider that my balance in that stance was extremely poor. Mistake
number 4.
When we met in the center,
Joe’s head was high and his guard was very low. I had dreamed about catching an
opponent that way but had never seen it. If you can score a good punch with his
head up and guard low, and can keep the punches coming, he will go down. There
is no way out if you keep the pressure on. I knew I had him - I could almost
taste it! I hit him with a good left jab followed quickly by a solid right
cross.
Both punches landed on the button. No man could have recovered. I threw a left hook immediately after the right cross and planned to move in and nail him with a right hook after that. But Joe had other ideas. When I threw the left hook, he grabbed my left wrist and jerked me down.
I had never seen anything so quick.
My punches had stung him so he let me know that he didn’t appreciate that. He beat me quite enthusiastically until Ray pulled him off.
Ray again asked me if I wanted to continue, and, of course I said “Yes.” But I really didn’t - I had never been so afraid in my life. I knew that I had to try to face that fear. I went 2 more rounds with him. When he came toward me, I felt that he was the hunter and I was the very helpless prey. And I knew that there was not a thing in the world I could do to stop him. The last 2 rounds were about the same. He would jump in the air and hit me 2 or 3 times before he came down. I wasn’t used to my targets moving vertically so I don’t think I ever did hit him. I did punch some holes in the air where he had just been.
He jumped on my back, held me
around the throat with his left arm, and punched me in the face with his right.
He hooked his foot in my belt in front, held the back of my neck with his left
hand, and punched me in the face with his right. He did those three things
several times and many other things that happened too quickly to remember
or describe.
I felt like there were 2 or 3 of him - everywhere I looked, there was a punch coming. I’m sure that it was very entertaining for everyone, except me. Little Joe was very motivated to convince me that I should not have hit him so hard - he made his point clearly and with enthusiasm.
Each round ended with me on the floor and Joe on top pounding me. Ray didn’t even ask me if I wanted to go again after the 4th round - he just stopped it. I went to Joe’s corner and shook hands with him conceding that he was the best “man.” I’m convinced that he was laughing at me when we shook hands.
I felt like there were 2 or 3 of him - everywhere I looked, there was a punch coming. I’m sure that it was very entertaining for everyone, except me. Little Joe was very motivated to convince me that I should not have hit him so hard - he made his point clearly and with enthusiasm.
Each round ended with me on the floor and Joe on top pounding me. Ray didn’t even ask me if I wanted to go again after the 4th round - he just stopped it. I went to Joe’s corner and shook hands with him conceding that he was the best “man.” I’m convinced that he was laughing at me when we shook hands.
A little old blue-haired lady
afterward asked me if that had been for real, or if I were part of the show. I
told her that from my perspective, it had seemed all too real, even painfully
real.
The main fear came, I think, from the shock that a 97-pound animal could so totally dominate me. I had never been in such a helpless situation. Everything was as perfect as it could have been for me in round 2, I gave him my best shot, but he completely dominated me. I knew then that he could do anything he wanted to me - I simply could not stop him. I had never been in such a helpless situation.
The main fear came, I think, from the shock that a 97-pound animal could so totally dominate me. I had never been in such a helpless situation. Everything was as perfect as it could have been for me in round 2, I gave him my best shot, but he completely dominated me. I knew then that he could do anything he wanted to me - I simply could not stop him. I had never been in such a helpless situation.
His speed surprised me, but I
could kind of understand that - many animals are quicker than humans. But his
strength I could not understand. I had boxed and scuffled with a lot of men,
many well over 200 pounds. Joe was much stronger than any of them.
The Smithsonian Museum of Natural History has an exhibit of primate skeletons beside some human skeletons. The processes (bony knobs on ends of the bones for muscle attachment) on the primate’s skeleton are much bigger than on the human. That gives more leverage for the muscles, creating both more speed and more power. I didn’t understand all that at the time, but I felt a little like the cowboy who, as the story goes, roped a mountain lion and then couldn’t figure out how to let it go.
In later years, I read that two chimpanzees had escaped from a zoo. They were picking up 25 gallon metal drums and throwing them like bowling balls at their attempted captors. They were throwing them with one hand. They are very, very strong.
The Smithsonian Museum of Natural History has an exhibit of primate skeletons beside some human skeletons. The processes (bony knobs on ends of the bones for muscle attachment) on the primate’s skeleton are much bigger than on the human. That gives more leverage for the muscles, creating both more speed and more power. I didn’t understand all that at the time, but I felt a little like the cowboy who, as the story goes, roped a mountain lion and then couldn’t figure out how to let it go.
In later years, I read that two chimpanzees had escaped from a zoo. They were picking up 25 gallon metal drums and throwing them like bowling balls at their attempted captors. They were throwing them with one hand. They are very, very strong.
The Noells gave me a good
sportsmanship certificate which I still have. They also shared their scrapbook
with me. They had dozens of newspaper clippings from all over the country,
stories in local papers about their show. One clipping described a fairly
famous professional wrestler who had tried to wrestle a chimp - the chimp won
that one, too.
The one I appreciated most described a bout Little Joe had with Carmen Basilio who was one of my boxing heroes. He held both the welterweight and middleweight titles. He won the welterweight title in a 12 - 14th round knock out over Tony Demarko - not one clinch in that entire fight. Basilio took one of two from Sugar Ray Robinson, the best boxer, pound-for-pound, ever. Both ended by knockout in the later rounds. Basilio didn’t have exceptional speed, his punch was not particularly powerful, and he was not a classic boxer. But what a fighter! He never backed off, he never clinched - he simply kept advancing throwing punches with both hands. A magnificent fighter, the best I have ever seen. But Little Joe whipped him, too. So I have something in common with one of the best fighters ever - we both got our butts soundly whipped by a 97 pound chimp!
The one I appreciated most described a bout Little Joe had with Carmen Basilio who was one of my boxing heroes. He held both the welterweight and middleweight titles. He won the welterweight title in a 12 - 14th round knock out over Tony Demarko - not one clinch in that entire fight. Basilio took one of two from Sugar Ray Robinson, the best boxer, pound-for-pound, ever. Both ended by knockout in the later rounds. Basilio didn’t have exceptional speed, his punch was not particularly powerful, and he was not a classic boxer. But what a fighter! He never backed off, he never clinched - he simply kept advancing throwing punches with both hands. A magnificent fighter, the best I have ever seen. But Little Joe whipped him, too. So I have something in common with one of the best fighters ever - we both got our butts soundly whipped by a 97 pound chimp!
In 2003, I saw on the History Channel a special on the Professional Boxing Hall of Fame which is in Carmen Basilio’s home town. They interviewed him and showed some clips from his fights. I would have loved to ask him if he remembers Little Joe. I’ll bet he does!
If the tough-man fights so
popular today had been around then, I would probably have tried them. I think I
would have been pretty successful. Most of those guys throw a lot of punches
but throw them from ridiculously wild, wide angles. My strength was
counterpunching and defense. Those guys sure give a lot of opportunities for a
defensive counter puncher. It’s ironic that these contests have replaced
carnival fights with animals. I guess it’s o-k to beat up people in America,
even to the point of death, but it’s wrong to fight animals. If my fight and
the Noells’ scrapbook were any indication, I am confident that Little Joe lived
a long life and died peacefully in bed dreaming about all the men he had
humiliated!
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That was so funny Larry and good writing ..keep up the good work and keep those hands up lol lol .Janet & Danny!!!
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